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  • #31
    Re: ly7 cams

    There's something I'd like to point out before the lock. For most of us, the G6 is our daily driver, not a project or race car. This is the only car I've owned/driven for 5 years. I don't think there is anything wrong with someone experimenting with or modding any car, but most rodders or tuners are only going to go so far with it because they need something to drive.

    Doing extreme modifications to your car that require weeks (maybe months) of frabrication is just not doable in a car you need to get to work or school in. If there is someone out there willing to put in the work, time, and money then I think that person should do it. If someone cannot, then they will not.

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    • #32
      Re: ly7 cams

      1. exhaust piping-stays the same the heads have the same pattern
      2. intake piping-already said this would need changed no big deal at all
      3. mounts-false take the mounts off the one you pull out and bolt them on
      4. crossmember mods-false the LLT/LY& are the exact same externally other than the one extra lobe on the cam for the fuel pump
      5. trans fitting-false same block so trans bolts right up
      6. drive by wire modifications-false the LLT/LY7 use the exact same throttle body
      7. wiring-LLT harness with the LY7 car and fuse box ends spliced in, no big deal
      8. bcm to ecm mating
      9. modified axles-false now your just making shit up
      10. oil pan modifications-false bolt the one from the LY7 you removed on
      11. fuel system mods-already stated this

      and that's the beginning of installing a different motor that was designed to be transversely mounted

      wow, i cant believe some of the morons around here that know absolutely nothing about the 3.6 whatsoever bashing others that have done the researnch and know the 3.6 inside and out........you saying that you can put in an LLT because theres way to much "custom work" to do is like you saying you cant swap in an LS2 into a car that had an LS1 because none of the parts will fit from one to the other at all.......

      bet you didnt know that the 2.8T, 3.0, 3.0T and 3.6 LLT, LY7 and LFX all share the same block so every one of them can have any of the parts interchanged and bolted one so you saying everything about exhaust routing and mounts and the trans fitting are all ignorant statements

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      • #33
        Re: ly7 cams

        lol well another quetion you think also changing the injectors to a higher PSI would help with tuning it? o and im waiting till my next leave to install the cams in my car because i only have till the 11th then im going san diego

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        • #34
          Re: ly7 cams

          Originally posted by 08gxp3.6 View Post
          lol well another quetion you think also changing the injectors to a higher PSI would help with tuning it? o and im waiting till my next leave to install the cams in my car because i only have till the 11th then im going san diego
          you cant change the injectors to a "higher PSI" thatd be dealing with the pump, you can change them to bigger injectors which are rated in lbs/hr and wever found some direct replacements but i dont recomend getting those until you have the cams installed and tuned on the stock injectors........itll be far more difficult to tune makeing many big changes than making a change or two at a time

          i sure hope you know how to pull an engine and dissaemble it time it dissasemble and reassemble the heads etc cuz thats whats required to install cams in the 3.6 what other mods do you even have done as i dont think ive ever seen you mention anything about what you already have done, if you dont already have an intake or exhaust work and headers i dont know that you will see much of a gain with cams like wise you would gain a whole lot more with all that and ported heads....hope you have 4k laying around to potentially have to spend on a new tranny if it wont hold the power after cams

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          • #35
            Re: ly7 cams

            well money isent a issue really cause i dont spend my money really and im having a shop put everything in and the tranny well idk what im gonna do with it cause i know it cant hold alot of power but i do have a intake and also the manifold spacer made by mace along with the mms headers and a catback with a mild tune on it just to make sure everything was running right

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            • #36
              Re: ly7 cams

              Uhhh if money isnt an issue why in the sam hell are you even messing with a G6? Because money was an issue and thats the car you bought LOL
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              • #37
                Re: ly7 cams

                Originally posted by SexyG6 View Post
                1. exhaust piping-stays the same the heads have the same pattern
                2. intake piping-already said this would need changed no big deal at all
                3. mounts-false take the mounts off the one you pull out and bolt them on
                4. crossmember mods-false the LLT/LY& are the exact same externally other than the one extra lobe on the cam for the fuel pump
                5. trans fitting-false same block so trans bolts right up
                6. drive by wire modifications-false the LLT/LY7 use the exact same throttle body
                7. wiring-LLT harness with the LY7 car and fuse box ends spliced in, no big deal
                8. bcm to ecm mating
                9. modified axles-false now your just making shit up
                10. oil pan modifications-false bolt the one from the LY7 you removed on
                11. fuel system mods-already stated this

                and that's the beginning of installing a different motor that was designed to be transversely mounted

                wow, i cant believe some of the morons around here that know absolutely nothing about the 3.6 whatsoever bashing others that have done the researnch and know the 3.6 inside and out........you saying that you can put in an LLT because theres way to much "custom work" to do is like you saying you cant swap in an LS2 into a car that had an LS1 because none of the parts will fit from one to the other at all.......

                bet you didnt know that the 2.8T, 3.0, 3.0T and 3.6 LLT, LY7 and LFX all share the same block so every one of them can have any of the parts interchanged and bolted one so you saying everything about exhaust routing and mounts and the trans fitting are all ignorant statements
                with you being so smart and this swap being so easy why are you doing all your work on the regular 3.6 from a G6...upgrade already...what are you waiting for it is so easy.... let us know how it goes....educate us.

                BTW it is nothing like comparing the ls2 and ls1 they mount the same way. and also they are able to utilize different aftermarket heads that each other. Lets stay in the realm of your genius.
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                • #38
                  Re: ly7 cams

                  Originally posted by GTPprix View Post
                  Uhhh if money isnt an issue why in the sam hell are you even messing with a G6? Because money was an issue and thats the car you bought LOL
                  lol well i like the look of the gxp and at the time money was a issue but now its not o and insurance wasent to bad since its just a 6

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                  • #39
                    Re: ly7 cams

                    Originally posted by CrimsonGTP View Post
                    with you being so smart and this swap being so easy why are you doing all your work on the regular 3.6 from a G6...upgrade already...what are you waiting for it is so easy.... let us know how it goes....educate us.

                    BTW it is nothing like comparing the ls2 and ls1 they mount the same way. and also they are able to utilize different aftermarket heads that each other. Lets stay in the realm of your genius.
                    all i need to switch to the LLT that my LY7 doesnt already have is a set of heads injectos and fuel rail, and i never said i wasnt gonna do it you can just ask beau who designed the intake manifold about us talking about doing this for the last 4 or 5 months, only thing making me not realy want to do it is so far i havent seen anyone have cams out for the LLT, there is for the LY7 and it would require a complete redesign of the plates for the bottom of the intake manifold that we already have 3 sets made of, as the ports are oval on the LLT heads, and the CPR6 wont fit the LLT either so because you cant to my knowledge get any cams for the LLT or an upgraded intake manifold im not doing it yet........ you can get those parts for the LY7

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                    • #40
                      Re: ly7 cams

                      Originally posted by SexyG6 View Post
                      all i need to switch to the LLT that my LY7 doesnt already have is a set of heads injectos and fuel rail, and i
                      Dont forget the pistons
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                      • #41
                        Re: ly7 cams

                        Originally posted by 08gxp3.6 View Post
                        lol well i like the look of the gxp and at the time money was a issue but now its not o and insurance wasent to bad since its just a 6
                        So sell it and buy a fast car Or keep it for a daily Muuuuch easier.
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                        • #42
                          Re: ly7 cams

                          Originally posted by GTPprix View Post
                          Dont forget the pistons
                          already planning on getting forged ones already have forged rods

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                          • #43
                            Re: ly7 cams

                            Originally posted by GTPprix View Post
                            So sell it and buy a fast car Or keep it for a daily Muuuuch easier.
                            well i want to get a trans am but the 6 is one of those cars that you just dont see around a whole lot in fact were i live theres only 2 others than i know

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                            • #44
                              Re: ly7 cams

                              Originally posted by SexyG6 View Post
                              all i need to switch to the LLT that my LY7 doesnt already have is a set of heads injectos and fuel rail
                              you mean you only need to swap fuel rails to get the required increase of fuel pressure that di has over pi? :O



                              Originally posted by 08gxp3.6 View Post
                              well i want to get a trans am but the 6 is one of those cars that you just dont see around a whole lot in fact were i live theres only 2 others than i know
                              you must live in bfe. i see at least two of them every ten minutes.

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                              • #45
                                Re: ly7 cams

                                Originally posted by zlatsky View Post
                                you mean you only need to swap fuel rails to get the required increase of fuel pressure that di has over pi? :O



                                you must live in bfe. i see at least two of them every ten minutes.
                                no, all you need is a fuel system that can supply more fuel not more pressure, the cam driven fuel pump gives the pressure the injectors need, and seeing how when i make one of my GXPs RWD and have a custom fuel setup and race cell i wouldnt need to make any further modifications to support the LLT fuel wise

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