adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

[chingo]

i decided to use my adjustable pedals today for them to not work i did a search and found that removing the fuse would reset them...well i pulled the fuse and i pressed the button and only the accelerator moved for like 2 seconds then shut off again...i kept doing this over and over and no luck do anyone know anything about this that can help me because i use this car everyday and i dont want to deal with the dealer unless its the last resort...

[ragingfish]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

i decided to use my adjustable pedals today for them to not work i did a search and found that removing the fuse would reset them...well i pulled the fuse and i pressed the button and only the accelerator moved for like 2 seconds then shut off again...i kept doing this over and over and no luck do anyone know anything about this that can help me because i use this car everyday and i dont want to deal with the dealer unless its the last resort...

Have you tried moving it in both directions? Does it shut down in both directions? If so, my guess is the adjustment motor is shot and/or a bad position sensor...

[tracyboy]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

There is a T.S.B on this.
TSB #4658 -- ADJUSTABLE PEDALS WILL NOT ADJUST INOPERATIVE. *NJ (NHTSA ID #10023415, OCTOBER 01 2007)

[ajnjennsg6]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

There is a T.S.B on this.
TSB #4658 -- ADJUSTABLE PEDALS WILL NOT ADJUST INOPERATIVE. *NJ (NHTSA ID #10023415, OCTOBER 01 2007)

but if this TSB was released in 07, might it not apply to an 08, unless there was a new revision??



AJ

[ragingfish]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

There is a T.S.B on this.
TSB #4658 -- ADJUSTABLE PEDALS WILL NOT ADJUST INOPERATIVE. *NJ (NHTSA ID #10023415, OCTOBER 01 2007)

but if this TSB was released in 07, might it not apply to an 08, unless there was a new revision??



AJ

It covers all model years (2005-200, but without seeing the full text of the TSB, there's no way to know if it's related to this issue or not.

[ajnjennsg6]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

There is a T.S.B on this.
TSB #4658 -- ADJUSTABLE PEDALS WILL NOT ADJUST INOPERATIVE. *NJ (NHTSA ID #10023415, OCTOBER 01 2007)

but if this TSB was released in 07, might it not apply to an 08, unless there was a new revision??



AJ

ahh..ok thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering how that worked.


AJ
It covers all model years (2005-200, but without seeing the full text of the TSB, there's no way to know if it's related to this issue or not.

[ahuhn]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

that TSB doesnt exist. at least not on GMs site

[ragingfish]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

that TSB doesnt exist. at least not on GMs site

This is all I've found so far:

Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
CHEVROLET / MALIBU 2004-2008
PONTIAC / G6 2005-2008
SATURN / AURA 2007-2008

Service Bulletin Number : 4658
NHTSA Item Number : 10023415
Summary Description :
ADJUSTABLE PEDALS WILL NOT ADJUST INOPERATIVE. *NJ

[ahuhn]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!


found it
i thought i saw it b4 and clicked the wrong one



all it is are tips for checking out the system

Here are some additional tips to use when diagnosing inoperative concerns with the adjustability of the adjustable pedals.

If the Adjustable Pedals are completely inoperative (pedal does not move at all) have the Technician check for a possible inhibit situation.

There may be condition due to a "step-over" fault where the adjustable pedal controller stops the system from adjusting. If the driver has applied a very high load with their foot to the brake while adjusting the pedals, it might be possible to trigger a step-over fault without there being anything wrong in the system. There is a caution about this in the owner's manual. By disconnecting and reconnecting the controller, this type of condition can be reset and the system will become fully functional again.

Important: The adjustable pedal module MUST be plugged in when measuring BCM inhibit voltage or you will get erroneous results.

The BCM can also inhibit adjustable pedals movement if it determines the ignition is ON and gear selector is not in PARK. A check for this type of inhibit can be done with Tech 2 using data display parameter for adjustable pedal inhibit ACTIVE. The Technician can also check for Voltage on Circuit 5980 Terminal G at the Adjustable pedal module with the module plugged in. The inhibit Voltage of this circuit is 11.2-12.8 volts. If you check this circuit and find that you have 1.0 or lower volts, the BCM is NOT inhibiting the adjustable pedals.

If the Adjustable Pedals energize and move the pedals slightly then shuts down, the adjustable pedal brake position sensor is not detecting movement of the system and the adjustable pedal module is disabling the system by removing the ground it applies to adjustable pedal switch.

Under this condition the technician should check to make sure the flex-shaft between the adjustable pedal actuator (on the accelerator pedal) and brake pedal is fully connected and the brake moves when the accel moves. Resynchronization of the brake and accelerator pedal positions to full rearward position is required if this cable is ever replaced. If cable connection looks OK then the wiring between the adjustable pedal brake position sensor and the adjustable pedal module should be checked.

Important: There are 2 Brake Pedal Position Sensors on the vehicle:

The Brake Pedal Position (BPP) Sensor is the sensor that is used to activate Stop Lamps, CHMSL and disable cruise. The BPP Sensor Calibration procedure used with this sensor has no effect on adjustable pedal function.

The other brake pedal position sensor is used only for the adjustable pedal function. It is read directly by the adjustable pedal module (non-serial data) and no data is available on Tech 2 for it. Also the wiring to the adjustable pedal brake position sensor should be checked.

[ragingfish]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

found it
i thought i saw it b4 and clicked the wrong one



all it is are tips for checking out the system

Here are some additional tips to use when diagnosing inoperative concerns with the adjustability of the adjustable pedals.

If the Adjustable Pedals are completely inoperative (pedal does not move at all) have the Technician check for a possible inhibit situation.

There may be condition due to a "step-over" fault where the adjustable pedal controller stops the system from adjusting. If the driver has applied a very high load with their foot to the brake while adjusting the pedals, it might be possible to trigger a step-over fault without there being anything wrong in the system. There is a caution about this in the owner's manual. By disconnecting and reconnecting the controller, this type of condition can be reset and the system will become fully functional again.

Important: The adjustable pedal module MUST be plugged in when measuring BCM inhibit voltage or you will get erroneous results.

The BCM can also inhibit adjustable pedals movement if it determines the ignition is ON and gear selector is not in PARK. A check for this type of inhibit can be done with Tech 2 using data display parameter for adjustable pedal inhibit ACTIVE. The Technician can also check for Voltage on Circuit 5980 Terminal G at the Adjustable pedal module with the module plugged in. The inhibit Voltage of this circuit is 11.2-12.8 volts. If you check this circuit and find that you have 1.0 or lower volts, the BCM is NOT inhibiting the adjustable pedals.

If the Adjustable Pedals energize and move the pedals slightly then shuts down, the adjustable pedal brake position sensor is not detecting movement of the system and the adjustable pedal module is disabling the system by removing the ground it applies to adjustable pedal switch.

Under this condition the technician should check to make sure the flex-shaft between the adjustable pedal actuator (on the accelerator pedal) and brake pedal is fully connected and the brake moves when the accel moves. Resynchronization of the brake and accelerator pedal positions to full rearward position is required if this cable is ever replaced. If cable connection looks OK then the wiring between the adjustable pedal brake position sensor and the adjustable pedal module should be checked.

Important: There are 2 Brake Pedal Position Sensors on the vehicle:

The Brake Pedal Position (BPP) Sensor is the sensor that is used to activate Stop Lamps, CHMSL and disable cruise. The BPP Sensor Calibration procedure used with this sensor has no effect on adjustable pedal function.

The other brake pedal position sensor is used only for the adjustable pedal function. It is read directly by the adjustable pedal module (non-serial data) and no data is available on Tech 2 for it. Also the wiring to the adjustable pedal brake position sensor should be checked.

Oh snap I called it!

my guess is the adjustment motor is shot and/or a bad position sensor...

[ahuhn]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

well you did guess like the whole system id hope youd get it right

[ragingfish]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

well you did guess like the whole system id hope youd get it right

Way to crap on my sunny day there andy...

[ajnjennsg6]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

OK Ahuhn question. It says about the pedals not movingwhile ignition on or in park.

Now like with my radio, I can access ALL DIC functions at anytime, driving on the highway parked stoplight etc. and everyone thought that was messed.

I can also move my pedals, while moving. Thats how I first found out that my pedals moved the day I bought the car. I was driving and I was like oh whats this. I pushed it in and I started accelerating, and it freaked me out.


Do i have BCM issues or something??

Sorry I jacked this thread, I am ready for my approriate punishments, oh great mods.

AJ

[ahuhn]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

i wouldnt worry about it ive been in plenty that do it too so idk which is right

[bigs4610]

Re: adjustable pedals refuse to work HELP PLEASE!

OK Ahuhn question. It says about the pedals not movingwhile ignition on or in park.

Now like with my radio, I can access ALL DIC functions at anytime, driving on the highway parked stoplight etc. and everyone thought that was messed.

I can also move my pedals, while moving. Thats how I first found out that my pedals moved the day I bought the car. I was driving and I was like oh whats this. I pushed it in and I started accelerating, and it freaked me out.


Do i have BCM issues or something??

Sorry I jacked this thread, I am ready for my approriate punishments, oh great mods.

AJ

could it depend on speed? maybe past a certain speed idk 10-15 the pedals wont work.
I remember a tahoe we had, the nav would work in the subdivision goin slow, but not on the main road at 45 mph