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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ruckmn
    dre256,
    Those are impressive numbers, and with the PCM mod very significant.
    The conversion numbers from Rear Wheel HP (RWHP), to Engine HP (EHP), for your 225.8 RWHP should yield 262.5 EHP, using your 14% loss factor.
    Remember EHP loss (%) gives RWHP.
    The equation, using 14% loss, is then:
    EHP - (EHP x .14) = RWHP
    or simplifying the eguation:
    EHP x .86 = RWHP

    As an example, use 250 EHP and 14% loss:
    250 x .86 = 215 RWHP
    Now, keeping the equation consistent (mathematically correct), in order to obtain EHP from RWHP, the equation becomes:
    EHP = RWHP / .86 ( / is divide symbol)
    or as per our example we have 215 RWHP:
    215 / .84 = 250 EHP

    Therefore, as I stated above, your 225.8 RWHP, and 14% loss,would yield:
    225.8 / .86 = 262.5 EHP.

    I guess the easiest way to remember this for any loss factor is :
    RWHP / ((100-loss factor)/100)
    or for say 17% loss factor:
    RWHP / .83 = EHP for 17% loss
    RWHP / .81 = EHP for 19% loss
    RWHP / .79 = EHP for 21% loss

    The same applies to Torque.

    The percentage loss factor has been a topic of discussion for many years, with so many factors contributing to the amount of loss; regardless of the loss factor, the improved numbers in your case , due to PCM changes are what really counts.

    Later,
    Don
    Thanks Don, I apprecate that! That helps alot in understanding it and makes alot more sense then my math did lol
    2006 G6 GTP: Traded

    2013 Mustang GT
    Gotta have it Green color
    Brembo brake package
    420 HP 5.0L
    Ford Racing Power Pack
    GT500 track pack differential cover
    BOSS 302 oil cooler, JLT oil separator

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    • #17
      Very nice gains Dre!

      I'd still love to do hptuners myself, but the cost to do it right is way too much. Happen to have any air/fuel numbers from your runs?
      04 CTS-V......like a G6, but with an extra 200hp, a proper transmission, and it is correct wheel drive:
      Self described crotchety old man!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by mbiker97
        Very nice gains Dre!

        I'd still love to do hptuners myself, but the cost to do it right is way too much. Happen to have any air/fuel numbers from your runs?
        I do have some air/fuel numbers But it was on a failed attempt so isnt offical but min was 11.8 max was 13.7 and average was 12.4 if that helps any. If you want me to be more acurate if that doesnt help PM me and ill try to get more info by the end of the week. But it stayed constent at 12.4 only for a time lapse of a sec it spiked to the 13.7 and then droped right to 11.8 and stablized to an average of 12.4 pretty much.
        2006 G6 GTP: Traded

        2013 Mustang GT
        Gotta have it Green color
        Brembo brake package
        420 HP 5.0L
        Ford Racing Power Pack
        GT500 track pack differential cover
        BOSS 302 oil cooler, JLT oil separator

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        • #19
          Nice numbers, makes me want to put mine on one. Maybe next time Im at the shop Ill ask.
          2007 G6 GTP SEDAN A6 BGM
          2002 Z28 M6 STOCK LUGNUTS
          2005 MALIBRUISER (I MISS MY ECOTEC!)

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          • #20
            Originally posted by dre256
            Originally posted by TLS2000
            Originally posted by Kman
            Originally posted by TLS2000
            No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


            ...I no longer have the highest dyno numbers..
            No need to worry, I haven't dyno'd my car yet.
            ...

            What, so you're going to bump me to THIRD PLACE?!?

            Damnit Kyle, get me me freakin' turbo YESTERDAY!
            Atlongest I stay 1st right am happy :P

            i know ill be pulled down to 2nd atleast when kyle dynos his turbo in....
            You will be pulled to 2nd place when I dyno, then to 3rd place when the Turbo G6 appears.
            2008 Mazda Mazdaspeed3 GT
            Forge Motorsports BPV
            CP-E Xcel Nano SRI
            HKS 3" Hi-Power CBE
            HyperTech Max Energy Tune

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            • #21
              Well you talk big, lets see you deliver :P

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Interfire
                Well you talk big, lets see you deliver :P
                As soon as I can find a good shop, I will dyno this puppy.
                2008 Mazda Mazdaspeed3 GT
                Forge Motorsports BPV
                CP-E Xcel Nano SRI
                HKS 3" Hi-Power CBE
                HyperTech Max Energy Tune

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Kman
                  Originally posted by Interfire
                  Well you talk big, lets see you deliver :P
                  As soon as I can find a good shop, I will dyno this puppy.
                  Yes, we will await your results you have a vector tune so you have protential of putting a little more torque to the wheels as Vectors is 10 and mine is 8.2. Even with exhaust and CAI I still might give you a run on HP to the wheels :P As your tune in 7 HP to the wheels as mine is 18.5.
                  2006 G6 GTP: Traded

                  2013 Mustang GT
                  Gotta have it Green color
                  Brembo brake package
                  420 HP 5.0L
                  Ford Racing Power Pack
                  GT500 track pack differential cover
                  BOSS 302 oil cooler, JLT oil separator

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                  • #24
                    Dre do you have an Automatic?
                    BMG Cofounder who happens to be a Petrolsexual
                    ^ The Man
                    v The Legend

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by jonnycat
                      Dre do you have an Automatic?
                      yes Like 6spd when looking but F that 1am shifting BS
                      2006 G6 GTP: Traded

                      2013 Mustang GT
                      Gotta have it Green color
                      Brembo brake package
                      420 HP 5.0L
                      Ford Racing Power Pack
                      GT500 track pack differential cover
                      BOSS 302 oil cooler, JLT oil separator

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                      • #26
                        i think i overlooked it in both threads...but what did you pay for this?

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                        • #27
                          damn, someone is michigan better drive their ass over to vector with their GT so he can do a test and I can order my pcm
                          BCG Member #1::G6er Elite

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                          • #28
                            dre has a different tune

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bluegtp33
                              i think i overlooked it in both threads...but what did you pay for this?
                              350. Its normally 399. Thats also include the tranny mod too if automatic too I belive. I talked to the guy Matt there and in a day or so am going to ask a mod if can open a group buy or intrest thread because he told me if I put together 5 G6s he would do the tune for them for 350 also for them. So that would possible help out us 3900s if intested in doing some mod to the car.
                              2006 G6 GTP: Traded

                              2013 Mustang GT
                              Gotta have it Green color
                              Brembo brake package
                              420 HP 5.0L
                              Ford Racing Power Pack
                              GT500 track pack differential cover
                              BOSS 302 oil cooler, JLT oil separator

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by reubenk
                                damn, someone is michigan better drive their ass over to vector with their GT so he can do a test and I can order my pcm
                                Yea mine is Tune Time in NJ, thats vector your thinking about. Unfortianlly I asked him about a 3500 tune for you guys. He said he prob can do it but needs a 3500 in NJ at his place for a few days prob to make it work. Also asked the same thing about the 3.6L, he said he could but again needs a 3.6L. Right now for the G6 can just do a 2.4L and the 3900. I dont know the gains of the 2.4L either
                                2006 G6 GTP: Traded

                                2013 Mustang GT
                                Gotta have it Green color
                                Brembo brake package
                                420 HP 5.0L
                                Ford Racing Power Pack
                                GT500 track pack differential cover
                                BOSS 302 oil cooler, JLT oil separator

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