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  • Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

    so I'm really sick and tired of not having headers and I keep dabbling in the thoughts of saying screw it and buying the cheapo PaceSetters.

    I mean you can pick up a set of Pacesetters 1 3/4 x 3" JET HOT coated for $499.95, add the mids for $119.95 and the O2 extenders for $49.00....

    Total: $668.90

    Kooks on the other hand for the 1 3/4, coated with mids and O2 extensions would be $1,475.72.

    Now the Pacesetters don't come with cats where the Kooks mids do so thats why theres a HUGE different in price for the mid pipes but the price for the kooks also doesn't include O2 extension harnesses.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love Kooks but the price is just insane for them. The other bad thing about Pacesetters is in their disclaimer is says "fabrication may be required "

    I've heard mixed reviews about Pacesetters, some people have had a set for years without any issues but others had problems with out of the box. I just want some dang headers to get the exhaust opened up a bit............

    So what are you guys rockin if anything? I know headers are on most of our TO DO lists for the goats but I'm just curious what the crew over here is rollin. Oh and yes I've spend countless hours reading on LS1 and other boards.
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    Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

    Kooks are expensive, but worth it.

    SLP, and a lot of the others, I heard always doesn't quite match up all the time. Guy I know Kurt has installed headers on GTOs like two dozen times at least and he says Kooks are always the easiest. SLP's he said sometimes are a pain in the arse for fitment sometimes, and also a guy I know doesnt recommend them as they rust. (Not that you need to worry as much about that as we do up North with salty roads in the winter) but two guys with SLPs up here have dailied theres for 2 years with them and have rust. Guys with Kooks are fine.

    Ive never heard much about Pacesetters. I know a few other people brought attention about American Racing headers, but I was told their fitment was a pain to get on as well.

    IMHO kooks is the way to go. If you look on ls1gto MarylandSpeed has a special where you get FREE coating with a special coupon code.

    I'd go with the 1 3/4" or the NEW Signiture stepped 1 3/4" to 1 7/8 ones. ($200 more for stepped).
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    • #3
      Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

      definately kooks. im going with doug thorley over kooks simply because they wont bolt up to my exhisting exhaust.
      kooks i would get, but inorder for it to work, i have to buy the catted mid-pipe, another 800.
      so im going catless and getting the doug thorley, or i am also considering kooks midlength headers
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      • #4
        Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

        im with you on the pacesetters. I talked to the one guy Bohnman (the guy that did my LED swap) and he has done tons of header installs. He said that obviously kooks are the shit and the best there is BUT people who he knows that have pacesetters say they work just fine. I mean, difficulty of install to me is not an issue. you install them once so if its a pain in the ass, once you have them on its finished anyways so who cares. Understandably if they dont fit then thats a big issue lol but as far as difficulty goes...oh well. He said the few he knows with pacesetters loved them and for the price you REALLY cant beat it. are kooks amazing? of course. but i DO think that you are paying for a name JUST a little. i mean 1400 for some welded pipe? gtfo.
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        • #5
          Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

          Originally posted by CrimsonGTP
          im with you on the pacesetters. I talked to the one guy Bohnman (the guy that did my LED swap) and he has done tons of header installs. He said that obviously kooks are the shit and the best there is BUT people who he knows that have pacesetters say they work just fine. I mean, difficulty of install to me is not an issue. you install them once so if its a pain in the ass, once you have them on its finished anyways so who cares. Understandably if they dont fit then thats a big issue lol but as far as difficulty goes...oh well. He said the few he knows with pacesetters loved them and for the price you REALLY cant beat it. are kooks amazing? of course. but i DO think that you are paying for a name JUST a little. i mean 1400 for some welded pipe? gtfo.
          yeah that's EXACTLY how I feel on the issue. Obviously Kooks are the best and the greatest since they have 100% great reviews and everyone uses them but at the same time I just want some cheapy headers with my small bolt ons for the time being. Once the car becomes strictly a weekend toy and not a DD and major engine work is done, THEN I would consider buying Kooks...

          Interesting points guys, hmmmmmmmmm

          Still worries me about the fittment with Pacesetters, get them and they don't fit worth the crap then what do you do, go through the hassle of sending them back and all that pain in the arse......
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          • #6
            Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

            there are quite a few g8 members that are running pacesetter longtubes and they love them. no complaints. its a gamble that you have to be willing to take. if it pays off, then great. if not, then its a risk you will learn from.
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            613/543 @11.5psi Old Numbers
            11.6 at 123. 1.92 60ft
            New numbers coming soon........

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            • #7
              Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

              I think I'll check in and email MSpeed and make sure they'll take them back if they have fittment issues. My long term goal is (when motor is built) Kooks 1 7/8th headers to 3" mids to the Kooks full 3" exhaust so we're talking big bucks.......
              TRADED IN BUT NEVER FORGOTTEN: 2006 GT Coupe in granite metallic, 15/5% tint, vinyl side marker deletes, Doctor Speed Stage 3 CAI, RED calipers by DupliColor, RED LED interior lights, 45 LED tail lights, WideView 8000K HID coversion kit, Nokya Artic White fogs installed, running MoBil 1, FIRST ever granite metallic color matched headlights!! Color matched eyelids just finished! GT-R Exhaust installed. R1 Concepts drilled and slotted zinc plated front rotors.

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              • #8
                Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

                im getting mine at marylandspeed as well.
                2006 Pontiac G6 V6-Too many mods-Traded In(RIP 2006-2010)
                2008 G8 GT-TSP Forged LS3-Procharger-219/231 RCR Cam-TSP Ported L92's-Squash-Kooks-Solo 3in-SS Wheels and Brakes-Demon8-BMR-BC Racing Coilovers-Custom Earls Tranny Cooler
                613/543 @11.5psi Old Numbers
                11.6 at 123. 1.92 60ft
                New numbers coming soon........

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                • #9
                  Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

                  I've never had a problem with Pacesetter, always proven themselves from what I've seen/experienced.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

                    Originally posted by Pedobear
                    I've never had a problem with Pacesetter, always proven themselves from what I've seen/experienced.
                    that's good to hear, I mean their prices really can't be beat compared to the other brands for the GTO's and other vehicles. I'll have to look into it a little more.
                    TRADED IN BUT NEVER FORGOTTEN: 2006 GT Coupe in granite metallic, 15/5% tint, vinyl side marker deletes, Doctor Speed Stage 3 CAI, RED calipers by DupliColor, RED LED interior lights, 45 LED tail lights, WideView 8000K HID coversion kit, Nokya Artic White fogs installed, running MoBil 1, FIRST ever granite metallic color matched headlights!! Color matched eyelids just finished! GT-R Exhaust installed. R1 Concepts drilled and slotted zinc plated front rotors.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

                      I got Solo HFC's and Solo Mach unbalnced cat back, so LT's are out of the picture for me. As soon as I get the funds, Im getting Doug Thorley shorties so I dont loose my high flow cats. I know I could sell the cats, but you never get what you paid for. I paid almost $600 for the cats. Shit, if you add up what I paid for the cats and exhaust, with a few 100 more bucks I couldve got ARH instead. Live and learn I guess.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

                        My friend has pacesetters on his camaro, they do the job but no kooks. The design(at least for the gto) is a better along with a better collector with ball joint connector. MDspeed has dynos comparing them. If you can't get Kooks then get pacesetters, but if you have the money then don't cheap out. Get catless mids and get them cheaper. It seems like this topic comes up as much on here as it does on ls1gto LOL.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

                          Originally posted by leong6gtp
                          My friend has pacesetters on his camaro, they do the job but no kooks. The design(at least for the gto) is a better along with a better collector with ball joint connector. MDspeed has dynos comparing them. If you can't get Kooks then get pacesetters, but if you have the money then don't cheap out. Get catless mids and get them cheaper. It seems like this topic comes up as much on here as it does on ls1gto LOL.
                          for sure. cept people on here aren't ass holes. i saw the comparative dyno's and kooks won by like 4-5 hp or something. i dont remember for sure but it wasn't a shitload.
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                          GO-K&N Intake, Spintech Exhaust, Pacesetter Headers, Catless Mids, Tuned using HPTuners By Rian

                          Turning and Stopping- Cquence Drilled and Slotted Rotors

                          Show- SAP Repros in Satin black, fake SAP mod, Tinted tails by Jorge, Satin Black Badges, 35% tint all around, Satin Black painted 17's, Flat Splitter

                          Electronics- Pioneer AVIC F90BT, JL 500.1 Monoblock Amp, JL 12W3-2, DDMTuning 8k 55watt HID hi/low, All Interior and Cluster LED Swap by Bohnman,

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                          • #14
                            Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

                            Originally posted by mi04se1
                            I got Solo HFC's and Solo Mach unbalnced cat back, so LT's are out of the picture for me. As soon as I get the funds, Im getting Doug Thorley shorties so I dont loose my high flow cats. I know I could sell the cats, but you never get what you paid for. I paid almost $600 for the cats. Shit, if you add up what I paid for the cats and exhaust, with a few 100 more bucks I couldve got ARH instead. Live and learn I guess.
                            i will be getting the doug thorly's as well. they are great and you can get 15% off at maryland speed and free shipping
                            2006 Pontiac G6 V6-Too many mods-Traded In(RIP 2006-2010)
                            2008 G8 GT-TSP Forged LS3-Procharger-219/231 RCR Cam-TSP Ported L92's-Squash-Kooks-Solo 3in-SS Wheels and Brakes-Demon8-BMR-BC Racing Coilovers-Custom Earls Tranny Cooler
                            613/543 @11.5psi Old Numbers
                            11.6 at 123. 1.92 60ft
                            New numbers coming soon........

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                            • #15
                              Re: Headers, what brand are you guys rockin?!!??!??!?!?

                              Just remember....you get what you've paid for...

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