2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

[ToniCipriani]

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/14/2009 ... zda6-town/

Trying to find an official website to see details.

[ahuhn]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

08317: Product Safety - Brake Lamps Not Working Properly - (Feb 10, 2009)


Subject: 08317 -- Brake Lamps Not Working Properly


Models: 2005-2006 Pontiac G6




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Condition
General Motors has decided that a defect, which relates to motor vehicle safety, exists in certain 2005-2006 model year Pontiac G6 vehicles. Some of these vehicles have a condition where the brake lamps may not operate properly because of fretting corrosion in a wiring connector. Fretting corrosion in the connector could cause the brake lamps to illuminate when the brake pedal has not been depressed, or the lamps may not illuminate when the brake pedal is depressed. In addition, the cruise control may not engage, or greater brake pedal force may be required to shift the vehicle out of PARK. Brake lamps that are not operating properly may not warn a driver in a following vehicle of the braking status and could lead to a crash without prior warning.

Correction
Dealers are to apply a dielectric lubricant to the connector to repair and prevent fretting corrosion.

Vehicles Involved
Involved are certain 2005-2006 model year Pontiac G6 vehicles built within these VIN breakpoints:

Year
Division
Model
From
Through

2005
Pontiac
G6
54151522
54160855

2006
Pontiac
G6
64100001
64100093


Important: Dealers are to confirm vehicle eligibility prior to beginning repairs by using the GM Vehicle Inquiry System (GMVIS). Not all vehicles within the above breakpoints may be involved.

For dealers with involved vehicles, a listing with involved vehicles containing the complete vehicle identification number, customer name, and address information has been prepared and will be provided through the GM GlobalConnect Recall Reports. Dealers will not have a report available if they have no involved vehicles currently assigned.

The listing may contain customer names and addresses obtained from Motor Vehicle Registration Records. The use of such motor vehicle registration data for any purpose other than follow-up necessary to complete this recall is a violation of law in several states/provinces/countries. Accordingly, you are urged to limit the use of this report to the follow-up necessary to complete this recall.

Parts Information
Parts required to complete this recall are to be obtained from General Motors Service and Parts Operations (GMSPO). Please refer to your "involved vehicles listing" before ordering parts. Normal orders should be placed on a DRO = Daily Replenishment Order. In an emergency situation, parts should be ordered on a CSO = Customer Special Order.

Part Number
Description
Qty/ Vehicle

12377900 (US)

10953529 (CN)
Lubricant, Dielectric
1*


* One unit of lubricant will service 25 vehicles.

Service Procedure
Remove the right side front floor console side trim panel to access the body control module (BCM).
Locate the C2 connector on the BCM.
Unlatch the C2 connector and disconnect the C2 connector from the BCM.



Apply dielectric lubricant on the BCM C2 pins (apply with a one-inch (25 mm) nylon bristle brush) on all the C2 connector pins. This will treat the pins against fretting corrosion.
Reconnect the C2 connector back on the BCM and re-latch.
Reinstall the right side front floor console side trim panel.

[WoodburyMan]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

Nice find. I'll have to see if I'm in the affected list..

[ahuhn]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

pm me vin and find out

[ragingfish]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

in the words of the eternal scooby doo...

RUH ROH!



what confuses me is how does a connector embedded well within the body of the car develop corrosion...while all the other connectors and fuses surrounding it are entirely unaffected?

[ahuhn]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

i dont think its normal corrosion. its fretting corrosion.

Fretting corrosion refers to corrosion damage at the asperities of contact surfaces. This damage is induced under load and in the presence of repeated relative surface motion, as induced for example by vibration

[ragingfish]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

i dont think its normal corrosion. its fretting corrosion.

Fretting corrosion refers to corrosion damage at the asperities of contact surfaces. This damage is induced under load and in the presence of repeated relative surface motion, as induced for example by vibration

what the fret is fretting corrosion?

[ragingfish]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

Here is documentation related to this recall:

GM Notification to Dealers: http://nhthqnwws111.odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/a ... 6-4651.pdf
Recall Acknowledgment: http://nhthqnwws111.odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/a ... 6-4474.pdf
Customer Notification Letter: http://nhthqnwws111.odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/a ... 6-3036.pdf
Remedy Instruction and TSB: http://nhthqnwws111.odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/a ... 6-6820.pdf
Defect Notice: http://nhthqnwws111.odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/a ... 6-1781.pdf

[ahuhn]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

thats a good question

from what i can gather its something like the metal contacts rub on each other and kind of wear eachother down and the dielectric grease is supposed to prevent that idk

if any one can define it beter feel free to try

[ragingfish]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

thats a good question

from what i can gather its something like the metal contacts rub on each other and kind of wear eachother down and the dielectric grease is supposed to prevent that idk

if any one can define it beter feel free to try

to the bat google!!!!

[batman music]

Ironically enough, an explanation from Delphi!

Fretting corrosion is the name for a build-up of insulating, oxidized wear debris that can form when there is small amplitude fretting motion between electrical contacts. The oxidized wear debris can pile up enough at the electrical contact spots that the electrical resistance across the connection increases a lot.

Source document: http://connectors.delphi.com/dcsgdmcs/D ... etting.pdf

[ToniCipriani]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

Nice find. I'll have to see if I'm in the affected list..

pm me vin and find out

Isn't this the VIN list?

2005
Pontiac
G6
54151522
54160855

2006
Pontiac
G6
64100001
64100093

[ahuhn]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

Isn't this the VIN list?

2005
Pontiac
G6
54151522
54160855

2006
Pontiac
G6
64100001
64100093

yes BUT

Involved are certain 2005-2006 model year Pontiac G6 vehicles built within these VIN breakpoints

Important: Dealers are to confirm vehicle eligibility prior to beginning repairs by using the GM Vehicle Inquiry System (GMVIS). Not all vehicles within the above breakpoints may be involved.

SO not all vehicles in there may bneed it to be done. so for a quick check they can do that but to be sure i can look it up and check


fopr those of you who want to check those VIN numbers are the LAST 8 NUMBERS OF YOUR VIN. if your inbetween them you may need the recall

[ragingfish]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

Nice find. I'll have to see if I'm in the affected list..

pm me vin and find out

Isn't this the VIN list?

2005
Pontiac
G6
54151522
54160855

2006
Pontiac
G6
64100001
64100093

yeah but that requires thinking dammit.

it's just easier to ask ahuhn.

[SmartGTP]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

i dont think its normal corrosion. its fretting corrosion.

Fretting corrosion refers to corrosion damage at the asperities of contact surfaces. This damage is induced under load and in the presence of repeated relative surface motion, as induced for example by vibration

what the fret is fretting corrosion?

Is that the type of green residue on electrical contacts?

[ToniCipriani]

Re: 2005-2006 MY Recall for Corroded Connector

Wiki on fretting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fretting