304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

[silverg6er]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

^ so why don't you get to it then

[Turbeau]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

The trick with turbocharging these vehicles mildly is going to be in how the vehcle reacts to seeing boost. The voltage would be all screwed up with the MAP sensor. I'd like to know if HP Tuners allows for a 2 bar map or more.

As it stands E85 on a 3.6 turboed at 14 psi would make quite a bit of power, hopefully with some good torque management on the tranny, the tranny could last as well I believe.

[leong6gtp]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

The trick with turbocharging these vehicles mildly is going to be in how the vehcle reacts to seeing boost. The voltage would be all screwed up with the MAP sensor. I'd like to know if HP Tuners allows for a 2 bar map or more.

As it stands E85 on a 3.6 turboed at 14 psi would make quite a bit of power, hopefully with some good torque management on the tranny, the tranny could last as well I believe.

Well we know to an extent how the 3.9 will react. Just not the 3.6.

[GT-R]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

The trick with turbocharging these vehicles mildly is going to be in how the vehcle reacts to seeing boost. The voltage would be all screwed up with the MAP sensor. I'd like to know if HP Tuners allows for a 2 bar map or more.

As it stands E85 on a 3.6 turboed at 14 psi would make quite a bit of power, hopefully with some good torque management on the tranny, the tranny could last as well I believe.

6lbs. of boost would be fairly safe, if you can deliver enough fuel, and even if HP Tuners does not support a bar map, there are plenty of stand alone fuel systems out there that can be implemented. It would be wise though, to do a dyno tune in order to map out the timing.

[Turbeau]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

Sigh.

GT-R I know the basics, and so do most here.

It's what the programming of the Bosch unit will decide to do once it sees erroneous MAP voltage. Will it attempt to verify with a MAF reading? Will it throw you into limp mode?

Will it simply not care at all, and we'll just have to adjust fueling based on MAF frequency? See what I'm getting at?

[GT-R]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

Sigh.

GT-R I know the basics, and so do most here.

It's what the programming of the Bosch unit will decide to do once it sees erroneous MAP voltage. Will it attempt to verify with a MAF reading? Will it throw you into limp mode?

Will it simply not care at all, and we'll just have to adjust fueling based on MAF frequency? See what I'm getting at?

It won't care at all once it hits the max value, then you're out of fuel to match the boost and you have to bring out the wrenches. If the tuning software does not support a multiple bar map, then there are other options. That was all I was stating.


SIGH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Turbeau]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

Dude. The car doesn't RUN out of fuel, there is a MAF that checks value versus MAP voltage.

The injector pulsewidth will go static when there is no more value coming from the MAF. So if you peg your MAF value than the vehicle will no longer alter the pulsewidth to add fuel... I know this from experience on the Grand Prixs and I think they will be somewhat similar what with both ECUs being modern FI dual input MAP/MAF vehicles.

I DO know on the otherhand that going above your pressure limit on the MAP caused issues for NA'er. Those boosting their NA GPs had problems with this.

Is there any reason you're acting like a 7th grader with your obnoxously large SIGH!!! in reference to me sighing, which is caused by constantly butting heads with you because you infrequently offer something without implied insult

P.S. I may be getting an Aura 3.6 XR soon, does your cat back bolt right up mang?

[GT-R]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

Dude. The car doesn't RUN out of fuel, there is a MAF that checks value versus MAP voltage.

The injector pulsewidth will go static when there is no more value coming from the MAF. So if you peg your MAF value than the vehicle will no longer alter the pulsewidth to add fuel... I know this from experience on the Grand Prixs and I think they will be somewhat similar what with both ECUs being modern FI dual input MAP/MAF vehicles.

I DO know on the otherhand that going above your pressure limit on the MAP caused issues for NA'er. Those boosting their NA GPs had problems with this.

Is there any reason you're acting like a 7th grader with your obnoxously large SIGH!!! in reference to me sighing, which is caused by constantly butting heads with you because you infrequently offer something without implied insult

P.S. I may be getting an Aura 3.6 XR soon, does your cat back bolt right up mang?

From what I've seen here, you seem to bash heads with everyone. As for my "sigh" I put it there just to show you what you look like. Now if you want us to dedicate a web page just for you, so that you can brag about how much you know, let me know. We'll call it the Turbutt page.

[Turbeau]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

Wow, I'm a little girl.

[GT-R]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

Wow, I'm a little girl.

Yes you are, and a banned little girl at that.

[leong6gtp]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

Geez that went sour lol.

[WoodburyMan]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

He was banned. For the third time.

[leong6gtp]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

He was banned. For the third time.

Yeah i saw that in the other thread.

[GT-R]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

Geez that went sour lol.

Turbeau


Seriously though, the guy needs to learn how to get along with others, and that possibly he doesn't know everything about anything. Making a simple comment about other possibilities for fuel management, and he thinks that it's an invitation to make smart ass remarks. On a different thread, he made a comment that could only be taken as a smart ass remark towards another forum member. With as many warnings as he's been given, you think he'd get it.

[dre256]

Re: 304hp LLT 3.6L V6 swap in G6

Sigh.

GT-R I know the basics, and so do most here.

It's what the programming of the Bosch unit will decide to do once it sees erroneous MAP voltage. Will it attempt to verify with a MAF reading? Will it throw you into limp mode?

Will it simply not care at all, and we'll just have to adjust fueling based on MAF frequency? See what I'm getting at?

GT-R has been around since the site basically has opened, he just trying to help and MOST DONT know the basics here. Most people here prob dont know the diffrence between IAT and MAF or an 02 sensor. Alot of people wouldnt have certain questions answered or know about with out his help esp on the performance end. Theres no point to be sarcastic when someone offers some help, if you know so much why are you online here, theres nothing else for you to gain.