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countrystrong
04-22-2010, 08:33 PM
I need to replace my ball joint on my passengers side of my car

I received the part in the mail and need this done

I was assuming it was just a few bolts, however after receiving the parts I found the ball joint is not threaded.
Is this just a press fit?
How do I remove the other and install the new control arm?

Is it just a matter of prying the old out and pressing the new on?
There are no clips, or pins?

THANKS IN ADVANCE , Photo's would be awesome too, but not needed

BAMBAMM
04-22-2010, 08:42 PM
Are you talking about the ball joint that's connected to the strut, with what looks like a bolt and a nut holding it together. If that's it, then this should help.

EDIT: I'd really recommend air tools to quickly remove the ball joint.


PONTIAC G6 Ball Joints

Description: A PONTIAC G6 ball joint consists primarily of two components a hardened-steel, ball stud and socket enclosed in a steel housing. The ball stud is attached to the steering knuckle and the socket with steel housing is attached to the control arm. A protective boot prevents dirt from entering the ball joint assembly. Ball joints are used on the front end of virtually every car and light truck.

Purpose: PONTIAC G6 Ball joints serve as the pivot points between the steering knuckle and lower and upper control arm suspension. This pivot action allows the suspension to travel up and down and tires to turn left to right. Ball joints support the entire weight of the vehicle.

Maintenance Tips/Suggestions: Most vehicles use permanently lubed ball joints that can not be lubricated. Aftermarket replacement ball joints often come with lubrication fittings. If your vehicle has lubrication fittings, the ball joints should be lubricated at every oil change. PONTIAC G6 ball joints, along with other suspension components, should be inspected annually. PONTIAC G6 ball joints can be checked for excessive side to side and, up and down play. Methods to check excessive play and amount of play vary; you should follow the manufactures procedures and specifications.

Failure symptoms: With use ball joints wear out causing play between the ball and socket joint. The most common vehicle symptoms associated with worn ball joints are wandering, uneven tire wear, and erratic steering. PONTIAC G6 ball joints can occasionally squeak when the vehicle turns or travel over bumps.

WARNING: If a ball joint fails, the suspension can collapse causing a loss of control.

AKA: Lower ball joint, upper ball joint, UBJ, LBJ

Location: Ball joints are located in the front suspension an inch or so behind the front tire. The lower ball joint is the pivot joint between the lower control arm and steering knuckle. The upper ball joint, if you have one is the pivot joint between the upper control arm and steering knuckle.

Here's the site. http://www.discountautoparts.com/autopages/PONTIAC-G6-Ball-Joint.html

07GTPBlackAndTan
04-22-2010, 08:44 PM
Ok, quick and dirty, ready?


Explore taking it off by just starting to disconnect things. Take it off and replace it. Pray to God you remember the order and what you took off and do that in reverse.

There.

Do I get a gold star?

countrystrong
04-22-2010, 08:56 PM
Are you talking about the ball joint that's connected to the strut, with what looks like a bolt and a nut holding it together. If that's it, then this should help.

EDIT: I'd really recommend air tools to quickly remove the ball joint.


PONTIAC G6 Ball Joints

Description: A PONTIAC G6 ball joint consists primarily of two components a hardened-steel, ball stud and socket enclosed in a steel housing. The ball stud is attached to the steering knuckle and the socket with steel housing is attached to the control arm. A protective boot prevents dirt from entering the ball joint assembly. Ball joints are used on the front end of virtually every car and light truck.

Purpose: PONTIAC G6 Ball joints serve as the pivot points between the steering knuckle and lower and upper control arm suspension. This pivot action allows the suspension to travel up and down and tires to turn left to right. Ball joints support the entire weight of the vehicle.

Maintenance Tips/Suggestions: Most vehicles use permanently lubed ball joints that can not be lubricated. Aftermarket replacement ball joints often come with lubrication fittings. If your vehicle has lubrication fittings, the ball joints should be lubricated at every oil change. PONTIAC G6 ball joints, along with other suspension components, should be inspected annually. PONTIAC G6 ball joints can be checked for excessive side to side and, up and down play. Methods to check excessive play and amount of play vary; you should follow the manufactures procedures and specifications.

Failure symptoms: With use ball joints wear out causing play between the ball and socket joint. The most common vehicle symptoms associated with worn ball joints are wandering, uneven tire wear, and erratic steering. PONTIAC G6 ball joints can occasionally squeak when the vehicle turns or travel over bumps.

WARNING: If a ball joint fails, the suspension can collapse causing a loss of control.

AKA: Lower ball joint, upper ball joint, UBJ, LBJ

Location: Ball joints are located in the front suspension an inch or so behind the front tire. The lower ball joint is the pivot joint between the lower control arm and steering knuckle. The upper ball joint, if you have one is the pivot joint between the upper control arm and steering knuckle.

Here's the site. http://www.discountautoparts.com/autopages/PONTIAC-G6-Ball-Joint.html


You got the part right I just haven't seemed to have found a good how-to for removal and install of the control arm part itself, however thanks Man!

ahuhn
04-22-2010, 09:50 PM
undo the bolts that hold teh control arm in then install new control arm tighten bolts and go

countrystrong
04-23-2010, 02:18 PM
Ok there Was no good how-to for the ball joint and I changed mine out today:

So here we go,

NEED TO CHANGE A FRONT LOWER BALL JOINT:
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020055_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020056_large.jpg
RIGHT LOWER BALL JOINT / CONTROL ARM

1. REMOVE TIRE

2. ON CONTROL ARM REMOVE THE REAR TWO BOLTS HOLDING IT ON
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020058_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020061_large.jpg

3. REMOVE THE BOLT ON THE SPINDLE HOLDING THE BALL JOINT IN PLACE
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020064_large.jpg

4. REMOVE THE LAST BOLT ON THE FRONT OF THE CONTROL ARM
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020063_large.jpg

*** TO REMOVE THE LAST BOLT YOU NEED TO UNBOLT THE TWO BOLTS HOLDING THE ENGINE MOUNT IN PLACE,
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020059_large.jpg

MOVE THE PLASTIC GUARD, PLACE A PRY BAR UNDER THE MOUNT AND PRY UPWARD, WIGGLE THE BOLT FREE AND THEN REMOVE THE CONTROL ARM***
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020062_large.jpg

5. CLEAN THE SPINDLE HOLE THAT IS GOING TO ACCEPT THE NEW BALL JOINT MAKING SURE THERE ARE NO BURRS

6. BEGIN TO INSTALL THE NEW CONTROL ARM, BY STARTING TO FIT IT INTO PLACE
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020060_large.jpg

7. START THE BOLTS IN THE REAR GETTING THE NUTS STARTED
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020061_large.jpg

8. REPLACE THE BOLT IN THE FRONT THAT NEEDED THE MOUNT MOVED TO WIGGLE FREE
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020063_large.jpg

9. REPLACE THE ENGING MOUNT BOLTS
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2996/1041/32488020062_large.jpg

10. PLACE THE PLASTIC COVER BACK IN PLACE
11. NOW THE FUN PART, LINE THE BALL JOINT ITSELF UP WITH THE HOLE IN THE SPINDLE
12. GET THE BALL JOINT STARTED AND GENTLY HAMMER AND JACK IT UP INTO PLACE
13. REPLACE THE BOLT ON THE SPINDLE HOLDING THE BALL JOINT IN (PINCH BOLT)
14. TIGHTEN ALL THE BOLTS AND INSPECT ALL THE PARTS
15. REPLACE TIRE
16. LOWER JACKS AND GO FOR A RIDE, OF COURSE TO TEST THE NEW BALL JOINT
( I SUGGEST HIGH SPEED DRIVING AND FAST CORNERS, ALONG WITH HARD BRAKING AND EVASION OF POLICE, THIS WILL PROPERLY TEST THE NEW PARTS)
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BAMBAMM
04-23-2010, 02:59 PM
:pics: would really make your write up a little more pretty.

And I read somewhere in there, "*** TO REMOVE THE LAST BOLT YOU NEED TO UNBOLT THE TWO BOLTS HOLDING THE ENGINE MOUNT IN PLACE", yeah that's nothing about what I was refering to as the Ball Joint.

G6FortWayne
04-23-2010, 05:01 PM
I also have to replace my passanger side lower control arm...I have a mechanic friend...going to see what he would charge me to do the labor...I found the part at Advanced Auto or AutoZone for $103.00. In this case is it better to pay more for the Duralast brand; which is $198.00. Is this a case of "you get what you pay for"?

DrewpyDawg
04-23-2010, 07:30 PM
In my experience, Duralast stuff is junk. May have a lifetime warranty but you'll need it.

countrystrong
04-24-2010, 09:04 AM
Bam, sorry for not posting pics along with my quick write up, I was going to but the batteries were dead when I went to grab the first pic, and by the time I realized it there was too much grease on my hands for me to care about going to get more or using my phone. I just wanted my car done. Maybe if I have time this week I will go back and take some

G6FortWayne
04-24-2010, 08:16 PM
I also have another question for this topic..."if one is gone out, should you just chamge out the other side while your at it"? Also, you should get a front-end alignment when finished.

stupendusd
04-24-2010, 08:30 PM
I also have another question for this topic..."if one is gone out, should you just chamge out the other side while your at it"? Also, you should get a front-end alignment when finished.
I think its advisable to change out both sides, but not necessary.

DrewpyDawg
04-24-2010, 09:16 PM
An alignment is a good idea whenever you replace any suspension or steering part. It may be ok or only off a little, but you may not know until your tires start to show uneven wear.

countrystrong
04-28-2010, 09:57 AM
There I made the ball joint write up all pretty like, I'm not sure if anyone wants to place arrows to all the points I am speaking of but there it is!

G6ALERT
05-09-2010, 10:28 PM
Okay I took my g6 to the dealer for an oil change last week only cause I got the 4 oil changes for a year for free. Anyways they told me I needed front lower control arms on both sides. Which is odd cause my car only has about 80,000 miles on it but I do live in Illinois and we have alot of potholes.


My question is what is a good brand for the lower control? Is dorman a good brand?

DrewpyDawg
05-11-2010, 07:09 PM
Needing ball joints at 80,000 miles is not that strange.

As for Dorman, I've been happy with some of their parts in the past but I'm warry of their ball joints after putting one on my Dodge Intrepid. Within a few months the boot split open, which lets grease out/water and dirt in and spells eventual death for the ball joint. I traded the car for my G6 before the ball joint wore out, but if I had kept the car I would have had to do the job over again. It should have lasted much longer than that obviously. The fitment of the control arm was good, it looked well made, although it didn't have a grease fitting for adding grease later and obviously they don't use very good material for the boots.